Robert Moses (democrat point)

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its great the only trouble is it accesibilty

TURNS ON during mid period overhead SE/SSE Hurricane swells with offshore winds, no better place to be, back of point rarly closes out also.

i find that when your getting weak swells at field 5 and field 4 demon break is usually a good bet for some fun waves and when the swells are good at field 5 and field 4 the waves are exceptional at demon break

Its a little creepy surfing the place alone on a big winter swell, great place but know your limits, if you're experienced in bigger swells a dont even attempt to surf it on a big swell because you will take a beating, ive taken 2-3 wave holddowns on big days.

Also at really low tide and a decent swell the wave gets really hollow but breaks in super swallow water, great time to get barrels but also an easy way to get hurt or eat a facefull of sand.

Additional Info:
always cut left otherwise you risk crashing on the rocks

Tide really makes this a tough place to surf, outgoing tide creates massive and strong rip that keep you constantly paddling, while incoming tides continually push you towrds the impact zone, not a good place to get caught inside on a big day, very hard go get back out if you get stuck in the impact zone. Best bet on a epic big day is to walk back down the point and hop into the channel/rip which will carry you back to the takeoff zone for another epic ride.

If you catch Demo on a classic day you can compare it to any world class point break, but those day only occur a few days a year.


go to robert moses field 2 and walk west along the shore for about 3/4 of a mile and youll hit it
or if you have a 4x4 you can go the 4x4 route

WalkGood walk (15-30 min)
Public accessYes
4x4 requiredYes
Boat requiredNo
Wave Characteristics
TypePoint break
BottomSandy with rock
PowerPowerful, Fun
FrequencyRegular (100 days/year)
Normal lengthShort (<50m)
Good day lengthNormal (50 to 150m)
Ideal Conditions
Wind directionNorth, NorthEast
Swell directionSouth, SouthEast
Swell size3ft-5ft - 8ft+
TideMid tide
Tide movementFalling tide
WeekFew surfers

Rips / undertow, Rocks



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